The MLO Project
Dismantling the Status Quo, One Episode at a Time.
The MLO Project is THE podcast for loan officers and industry professionals who are ready to evolve. We’re here to disrupt the old guard, break free from outdated norms, and deliver insights that actually matter.
Hosted by mortgage industry veterans Jason Frazier & Michael McAllister, The MLO Project promises No fluff. No clichés. Just real talk, fresh ideas, and actionable takeaways to elevate your career and the industry.
The MLO Project is presented by Empower LO
The MLO Project
Marriage, Mortgages & Benihana | Ep. 18
In this episode of The MLO Project, Frazier and Michael welcome a special guest—Michael’s wife and business partner, Kimberlee McAllister—for a candid, funny, and insightful conversation about building a business and a marriage at the same time.
Together, they unpack what it’s like running Empower LO, navigating roles, boundaries, and balancing life in the fast-paced mortgage world. With backgrounds in both mortgage and real estate, Michael and Kimberlee share what’s worked, what’s flopped, and why communication and shared vision are non-negotiables.
And yes, you’ll hear about that Benihana night—because behind every strong couple in business is a hilarious story that keeps them grounded.
Hit play for real talk on love, leadership, and building something that lasts—together.
00:00 Introduction and Welcoming the Guest
01:06 Introducing Kimberlee McAllister
02:14 Discussing Family Dynamics in the Mortgage Industry
06:17 Kimberlee’s Role at Empower
08:43 Transitioning to a Business Partnership
15:21 The Importance of Industry Experience
22:08 Empathy and Experience in Recruitment
23:03 The Challenge of Transferring Industry Knowledge
23:33 Importance of Empathy and Understanding in the Industry
25:30 Balancing Work and Personal Life
27:55 Intentional Quality Time
28:46 Economic Conditions and Partnership Dynamics
33:50 Working with Family vs. Spouse
36:29 The 'No Reservations' Story
40:32 Final Thoughts and Farewell
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